gEDA-dev: Re: GEDA development ....

[al davis]

On Tuesday 08 May 2007, John Doty wrote:
> Well, then quit throwing rocks at SPICE 

You are the only one throwing rocks.

> and do something 
> better.   

I'm working on it.  I even told you what I am doing now, and 
why.  

> SPICE may be a klunker, but it's better than vapor. 

Gnucap is not vapor.  I never said Spice is a "klunker".

Gnucap is better than Spice in some ways, not as good in some 
others.

> Yes, I know it has problems, I've been working around them
> for years. 

To move on, one must study the past, and acknowledge what is 
good and bad.  I never said Spice was "bad".  It worst, I 
acknowledged that it is old technology and it is time to move 
on.  Most of the creators of Spice will say the same.  I will 
say the same about my own work of 20 years ago.

The idea of free/open-source isn't just that you can read the 
source.  Discussions are open too.  Some of it is actually 
useful.


> Now you worry me again. Sounds like EDIF.

There is good and bad in any design.  There is good even in the 
failures.  Most (all??) successes happen because of the 
failures.

To see places where an intermediate format is used, look at most 
compilers, and at the "pbmplus" graphics translation 
collection.  I am sure there are others.

It doesn't matter to most users what the intermediate format is.  
You never see it.  Only the developers see it.  I recommended 
the use of a format that others are using so we can be 
compatible with it.  Is this bad?